Cars without stickers

[Ramesh Ramoo]

Hi All,


Take note that, there are residents without car stickers. As mention before we have mention to Security Company to stop any vehicle without car stickers to register their name and the address to avoid any intruders to our residents. I am sure we don’t want any break in later and blame the Security Company for it. Below here are the cars without stickers which the Security Company has given us. I hope the owners of these cars will get the stickers soon to avoid unnecessarily being stop at the guard house. Your cooperation in this much appreciated.

Please inform your neighbor’s if your find his/her car on this below list. I would like to thank in advance for your cooperation. Thanks.

Car No :
WLC3060- 22, JLN 3/3
WEJ8166- 13, JLN 3/3
CAU6239
BHU8063 - 24, JLN 3/2
WGJ8839 – 10, JLN 3/1F
WAK612 – 25, JLN 3/1
WRB8013 – 16, JLN 3/1
BGK1500 – 2, JLN 3/1
JKM6339 – 130, JLN 3/1
TU1688
WAP2353 – 83, JLN 3/1
WDP311 – 83, JLN 3/1
WLL1091 – 160, JLN 3/1
WLL7620 - 120, JLN 3/1
BJW295 - 120, JLN 3/1
BP2929- 120, JLN 3/1
BG1727 - 110, JLN 3/1
WFS5641 - 9, JLN 3/1B
WRQ6778- JLN 3/2
JGF5394 - JLN 3/2
WPL9982- JLN 3/2
DAK1012 - 10,JLN 3/1F
WRC2640 - 16,JLN 3/1F
PEQ9848 - 108,JLN 3/1
WBC6633 - JLN 3/1
BAE3893
BCF3289
WCJ8008
WHD8070
BDQ2369
WAR2094 – 2, JLN 3/1D
WLU8889 - 27, JLN 3/1E
WGK6992 - 27, JLN 3/1E
WGN1861 - 23, JLN 3/1E
BBG146 - 33, JLN 3/3
WEE8958 - 31, JLN 3/3
WQF4068 - 31, JLN 3/3
SL6522A - JLN 3/1D
WQH891 - JLN 3/1D
DS3342 – 8, JLN 3/1E
DAP4495 - 8, JLN 3/1E
WEP6813 - 10, JLN 3/1E
JDX5899 - 22, JLN 3/3

[spiderman]

Good one on listing out all house and car #.

[Ramesh Ramoo]

Hi All,

Feed back from the residents as below. All this feedback were sent through the e-mails but I have posted here merely for the benefit of other residents who didn’t get the e-mail notification.

Thanks.

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We need more professional security guard, probably well trained one, such as ADT, Syarikat Security Bekas Polis, etc. Probably can propose to the TTP management, and let them get some quote and get back to us.

If the security is lousy, RM50 is expensive and not worthy. If the security is excellent, even RM80 might worth the cost and well justified.

Regards,
P.P.Foong

----- Original Message ----
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>

My thoughts. Keep the security, good for house market value and minimise prowlers. Discuss with management and set ground rules. Residents to abide with the rules. Register resident association. Ramesh for president. My one ringgit- due to price increase

Koh Swee Ong, Henry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn William Nunis" [[e-mail]]

I see them walking their rounds whenever I take my dog for a walk at nights. I see them stopping and questioning drivers of cars that they do not recognise. And yes, I have also seen them not really doing their duty as what they are supposed to. So they are sometimes inconsistent and it is our duty to raise this matter with the management office which we have the right to since we are paying for the service.
Consistent or not, having them around and complimenting them with the very, very good neighbours that I have, I sleep more peacefully at nights when I am outstation. I am pretty sure that I will not be having the same peaceful sleep if I am staying in an area without any form of security.
So, I agree with Edwin and Hidayat, lets KEEP them and follow the simple rules of having the car sticker. The hassle of sticking one on your car windscreen is just one time thing than having to go through the constant inconvenience of being stopped. It’s common sense. At the end of the day, these are the most basic requirement for any guarded facilities anywhere and the choice is up to each one of us on whether to follow. If you choose not to, then please do not complain when the guards constantly stop you as they are mandated to do so.

Just my 2 cents.

Sincerely,
Glenn W. Nunis

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From: Edwin Ong [mailto: edwin [e-mail]]
Sent: 15 May 2008 01:53 AM

I personally think that whether the security is functioning fully or not it should still be there because though it might just be for 'show' but I'm pretty sure a thief/robber/criminal will think twice or thrice if the person is considering committing a crime in this housing area.
Though not 100%, at least a big number of unwanted crimes can be deterred.

So my conclusion, whether it is functioning or not, keep it there.

p/s:- Don't forget about Nurin or Sharlinie..... now think about your own kids... yes that's right, every ounce of security counts.

regards,
Edwin

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Hidyatul Khair Jumain <[e-mail]> wrote:

Hi,

I agree that we need to support & respect to security rules in place. Since we hv them already & been paying for it, let make the best out of it - maximize it. I dont think there is much effort for us to oblige to some of its very basic rules... car stickers, guest registration etc.. and most importantly in giving our cooperation, understanding & respect. It dont make sense that we put security up, but then refuse to follow the set procedures - that is why it just become a show.

Thx,
HKj




Hi
i believe with or without security there is no difference.
Rather not to have them
TQ
A.D.Lincoln


-----Original Message-----
From: "Yvonne" <[e-mail]>

I agree with Ramesh. There 's no point paying for security guards when anyone can just drive into our Taman

[wwwditaqcom]

The sticker is very good. only a little mistake the sticker got. if the car is parking somewhere for example at Giant or Tesco everybody who see the sticker is knowing where i stay. so i think we should change the sticker to an anoym sticker only for our safety.

[Ramesh Ramoo]

Hi,

The sticker only indicates the Taman Name and not the address therefore I don't see any reason to change the sticker. In fact it's a standard practice for all other guarded security residents as well. Thanks.

May 31, 2008 11:15:19 GMT 7 @wwwditaqcom said:

The sticker is very good. only a little mistake the sticker got. if the car is parking somewhere for example at Giant or Tesco everybody who see the sticker is knowing where i stay. so i think we should change the sticker to an anoym sticker only for our safety.

[wwwditaqcom]

i know that is a standart sticker. but why not a anonym sticker that nobody know where this car is coming from? will be only a bit more safety. ON the sticker is writing "taman tasik....." only this should be not writen. a green dot and a sticker number that will be enough. or maybe a bit more to make it safety for copy.

[Senthi]

Hi Guys,

I received ur news letter which was in my mail box recently-june/july 2008. Thanx for taking the initiative. The instructions were very clear in both bahasa and english. I'm a regular payer of the security guard fees but i'm just curios and would like to clarify the following issues below:

1. At the sales office, the car sticker is being sold for RM10/2008/car (i.e. RM10 per year). But in the TTP's news letter which was put in all the mail boxes, it was clearly printed for RM10/2008-2009/car (i.e. RM10 for 2 years).

Hence, i refused to buy any car sticker which has not printed for 2008/2009 cuz with or without the sticker i'm still a resident of TTP. If the guard can do a pre-registration of all the cars n owners it will solve the sticker problem cuz he is looking at the cars and the car owners almost everyday but the guards have to perform some additional works by verifying against thier log book.

2. Price hick up of the security guards and car stickers? Why the residents were not kept in the loop or informed?

3. Even for a condo, the resident is entitled for at least 1 to 2 car stickers for Free of Charge (FOC). And how come, during the earlier yrs in 2006-2007, TTP's sales office offered me with 2 car stickers with FOC.

I would like to know, under whose concern or approval all those above things are taking place. And why are we allowing the price to go up without the residents' concern/approval. The information is not consistent or it has not convinced me to buy any car stickers for time being until things are transparent for me/resindents.

If there is no RA (resident association), then there is no point for anyone to force a resident to buy a car sticker. Its not a private property and hence the guard has no authority to stop the residents for not displaying the car sticker. Cuz my payment to the sales office for the guard's service is prompt.

We just can't continue paying for the security fees and for the car stickers just for the 'salute' which they are giving us.... Its not practical, so those who are involved in this service, please kindly look into all the details / concerns the residents have.

Thanks.

Senthi

[Ramesh Ramoo]

Hi Senthi,

See below for your reply

1. Currently all the car stickers are for 2 years. I am also not aware about the yearly car stickers you have mentioned below but it will be better control if it’s a yearly basis so we can catch all those residents who didn’t pay the security fees on yearly basics.

The security guard cannot be recording all cars without stickers and referring to the log book every time you drive in as this will delay at the security post for others who have stickers. Imagine if there are 40 people without stickers and the poor guard need to check every line of his log book before he let you go in and meanwhile I am sure other resident who is behind you will start horning and yelling at you or at the security guard then he will get mad and probably he/she will throw some vulgar words as well. (This is why now the security guard just decided to salute you instead)

2. I agree with you about the price hick and the resident was not kept in the loop. If you read the previous forum article then you will know that we have attend many ..many meetings to discuss about this issue and the conclusion we get is nothing as part of it is also our problem as many ..many of the resident didn’t even bother to attend the meeting to give the support with some of the concern residents for were fighting the war out there alone and lost the battle but the message was already gone through to the management of the PNHD. Hope next time they hick the price they will inform us. (Just for information, the Lake View residents are paying RM 150 per month.)

3. Condo residents are paying much higher maintenance fee then all of us. Anyway will discuss this on our next meeting with PNHD. Do join us for the meeting as you can voice out directly to them on all your concerns.

4. I also agree with you that, we don’t have any Resident Association currently as I can’t register the association as we don’t have enough dedicated residents who want to come forward to join as committee members. We also have no rights to impose any rules but we can do it as interim committee only. Are you interested to join us?

5. There is nothing to be transparent about as we are the interim committee and you can join us during our meeting so we can discuss together. All the article we discuss are either posted in this forum or through the e-mail. I also have another suggestion that, we can forget about the whole idea and let the security be as it is now and most probably to be close later when the collection is bad.

I am glad you have opened up to discuss here and I am also being very transparent about the whole thing. All the interim committee not interested in anything except we want a better place and Safety environment for our children which we call ‘Sweet Home’.

Thanks.

Jul 27, 2008 19:36:56 GMT 7 @Senthi said:

Hi Guys,

I received ur news letter which was in my mail box recently-june/july 2008. Thanx for taking the initiative. The instructions were very clear in both bahasa and english. I'm a regular payer of the security guard fees but i'm just curios and would like to clarify the following issues below:

1. At the sales office, the car sticker is being sold for RM10/2008/car (i.e. RM10 per year). But in the TTP's news letter which was put in all the mail boxes, it was clearly printed for RM10/2008-2009/car (i.e. RM10 for 2 years).

Hence, i refused to buy any car sticker which has not printed for 2008/2009 cuz with or without the sticker i'm still a resident of TTP. If the guard can do a pre-registration of all the cars n owners it will solve the sticker problem cuz he is looking at the cars and the car owners almost everyday but the guards have to perform some additional works by verifying against thier log book.

2. Price hick up of the security guards and car stickers? Why the residents were not kept in the loop or informed?

3. Even for a condo, the resident is entitled for at least 1 to 2 car stickers for Free of Charge (FOC). And how come, during the earlier yrs in 2006-2007, TTP's sales office offered me with 2 car stickers with FOC.

I would like to know, under whose concern or approval all those above things are taking place. And why are we allowing the price to go up without the residents' concern/approval. The information is not consistent or it has not convinced me to buy any car stickers for time being until things are transparent for me/resindents.

If there is no RA (resident association), then there is no point for anyone to force a resident to buy a car sticker. Its not a private property and hence the guard has no authority to stop the residents for not displaying the car sticker. Cuz my payment to the sales office for the guard's service is prompt.

We just can't continue paying for the security fees and for the car stickers just for the 'salute' which they are giving us.... Its not practical, so those who are involved in this service, please kindly look into all the details / concerns the residents have.

Thanks.

Senthi